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« Reply #15 on: January 07, 2006, 08:40:43 pm »
He is real. To them, scientificism is their religion :D . I mean, why does science always have to interfeir with religion? How DUMB.

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« Reply #16 on: January 07, 2006, 09:15:22 pm »
::Dolphin Noise::ing liberals. Gosh they seriously ::Dolphin Noise:: me off. Why can't people who don't believe in God just leave Christians alone? Do they really have to dig into our business and try to prove us wrong all the time? I mean my God it's the same situation. Them trying to prove our God wrong is like us trying to make them believe in him.

i would say more but I don't want to offend anyone. i'm not in a very good mood tonight at all.

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« Reply #17 on: January 07, 2006, 09:21:09 pm »
short and sweet...

u dont believe in God or that Jesus iz the son of God, itz ur perogitive.  az for thoze who do believe in Him, like me...itz our perogitive.  dont try to tell me wut to believe and i wont tell u wut to either.  spiritual belief iz the most divided subject to go on...and it'll have people turning on each other real fast.

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« Reply #18 on: January 07, 2006, 09:46:42 pm »
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short and sweet...

u dont believe in God or that Jesus iz the son of God, itz ur perogitive.  az for thoze who do believe in Him, like me...itz our perogitive.  dont try to tell me wut to believe and i wont tell u wut to either.  spiritual belief iz the most divided subject to go on...and it'll have people turning on each other real fast.
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Preach it my brother :laugh:

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« Reply #19 on: January 07, 2006, 10:45:03 pm »
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::Dolphin Noise::ing liberals. Gosh they seriously ::Dolphin Noise:: me off. Why can't people who don't believe in God just leave Christians alone? Do they really have to dig into our business and try to prove us wrong all the time? I mean my God it's the same situation. Them trying to prove our God wrong is like us trying to make them believe in him.

i would say more but I don't want to offend anyone. i'm not in a very good mood tonight at all.
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I actually agree with you on whether or not the Italian court should be doing this.

I do like how some Christians can see how it feels to have someone else's beliefs shoved in their faces though.

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« Reply #20 on: January 08, 2006, 01:20:52 pm »
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::Dolphin Noise::ing liberals. Gosh they seriously ::Dolphin Noise:: me off. Why can't people who don't believe in God just leave Christians alone? Do they really have to dig into our business and try to prove us wrong all the time? I mean my God it's the same situation. Them trying to prove our God wrong is like us trying to make them believe in him.

i would say more but I don't want to offend anyone. i'm not in a very good mood tonight at all.
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Let them believe it but don't make laws due to something that is controversial. I'll let someone believe about god, but the fact there is a law about it just ::Dolphin Noise::es me off. Some people ARENT Christians.

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« Reply #21 on: January 08, 2006, 01:33:45 pm »
lol, you'll let sumone believe in God??  how generous of u.  and there'z no law that sayz they gotta believe in God.

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« Reply #22 on: January 08, 2006, 02:10:34 pm »
I don't see how anyone can argue that he didn't exist.  It's been scientifically proven he existed.  There's no way to prove he was the son of God, though I personally believe he was.

That part is left to faith in one's religion.

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« Reply #23 on: January 08, 2006, 06:39:21 pm »
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Did Jesus exist? Italian court to decide

By Phil Stewart
Wed Jan 4, 10:28 PM ET

ROME (Reuters) - Forget the U.S. debate over intelligent design versus evolution.
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An Italian court is tackling Jesus -- and whether the Roman Catholic Church may be breaking the law by teaching that he existed 2,000 years ago.

The case pits against each other two men in their 70s, who are from the same central Italian town and even went to the same seminary school in their teenage years.

The defendant, Enrico Righi, went on to become a priest writing for the parish newspaper. The plaintiff, Luigi Cascioli, became a vocal atheist who, after years of legal wrangling, is set to get his day in court later this month.

"I started this lawsuit because I wanted to deal the final blow against the Church, the bearer of obscurantism and regression," Cascioli told Reuters.

Cascioli says Righi, and by extension the whole Church, broke two Italian laws. The first is "Abuso di Credulita Popolare" (Abuse of Popular Belief) meant to protect people against being swindled or conned. The second crime, he says, is "Sostituzione di Persona", or impersonation.

"The Church constructed Christ upon the personality of John of Gamala," Cascioli claimed, referring to the 1st century Jew who fought against the Roman army.

A court in Viterbo will hear from Righi, who has yet to be indicted, at a January 27 preliminary hearing meant to determine whether the case has enough merit to go forward.

"In my book, The Fable of Christ, I present proof Jesus did not exist as a historic figure. He must now refute this by showing proof of Christ's existence," Cascioli said.

Speaking to Reuters, Righi, 76, sounded frustrated by the case and baffled as to why Cascioli -- who, like him, came from the town of Bagnoregio -- singled him out in his crusade against the Church.

"We're both from Bagnoregio, both of us. We were in seminary together. Then he took a different path and we didn't see each other anymore," Righi said.

"Since I'm a priest, and I write in the parish newspaper, he is now suing me because I 'trick' the people."

Righi claims there is plenty of evidence to support the existence of Jesus, including historical texts.

He also claims that justice is on his side. The judge presiding over the hearing has tried, repeatedly, to dismiss the case -- prompting appeals from Cascioli.

"Cascioli says he didn't exist. And I said that he did," he said. "The judge will to decide if Christ exists or not."

Even Cascioli admits that the odds are against him, especially in Roman Catholic Italy.

"It would take a miracle to win," he joked.
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You mean the same Italians that lost to the Ethopians in World War 2, get to decide if Jesus existed or not? The same Italians that where the shame of modern day Europe get to decide if a biblical figure was ever born?

Funny, considering how Italy is all Catholic and everything... now they are pulling a France and CHANGING THEIR MINDS? Maybe i didn't read this correctly, but that is absurd.

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« Reply #24 on: January 08, 2006, 06:42:05 pm »
nah, sum fool that turned atheist, wantz to pass it to where they say jesus didnt exist.  which probly aint gonna pass cuz italy iz primarily catholic.

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« Reply #25 on: January 09, 2006, 04:12:35 pm »
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lol, you'll let sumone believe in God??  how generous of u.  and there'z no law that sayz they gotta believe in God.
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Gay marriage banned.

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« Reply #26 on: January 09, 2006, 04:17:38 pm »
OMG I can't beleive they are having this debate whats nexts? debating over if heven and he11 excists that just stupid!!!!

he excists in my opioion if he didn't excists then mircles would never happend

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« Reply #27 on: January 09, 2006, 04:49:46 pm »
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lol, you'll let sumone believe in God??  how generous of u.  and there'z no law that sayz they gotta believe in God.
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Gay marriage banned.
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i'm still waiting for the part where it sayz they gotta believe in God...

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« Reply #28 on: January 09, 2006, 05:04:38 pm »
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lol, you'll let sumone believe in God??  how generous of u.  and there'z no law that sayz they gotta believe in God.
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Gay marriage banned.
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i'm still waiting for the part where it sayz they gotta believe in God...
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Give me a reason people oppose homosexual marriages besides religion.

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« Reply #29 on: January 09, 2006, 05:07:46 pm »
hah, homophobia.  that still aint the point...u can dance around and say "oh they banned gay marriage, religion, religion, religion!" all u want...but the bottom line, they aint tellin no one they gotta believe in God.